I would appreciate a copy of those photos and if any body
has any others from a different angle I would like to see them.
Not planning an encore for 2007
Regards
Mark Hayward
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Mrk - The pictures were taken by John Salter. You will need to email him directly for original hi res copies. As a member you can get his email by clicking on his name in the photo album. - Michael
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear no one hurt - rollovers are always dramatic to watch, and of
ReplyDeletecourse to be involved with, but luckily as far as I can discover only one
sidecar passenger (not me this time) got a bit of a bump. Much discussion
about the dangerous aspects of some of our sections, ie Blue Hills & Simms
especially. All views & opinions welcome.
Yours,
Celia
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>John’s photos of my roll over on Blue hills are great.
>It all happened in slow motion with my son and I rolling out of the car.
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ReplyDeleteFirst to welcome Celia her. For those of you that don’t know Celia is a very experienced Motorcycle competitor and editor of Triple the MCC magazine. Regarding safety on trials sections I am glad I’m not a Director or official of the MCC as in my opinion spectator safety is an issue on the sections mentioned. True, Blue Hills 2, Slippery Sam and Crooked Mustard all have “launching ramps” that can and do turn cars over if you get the line and speed wrong. As far as drivers are concerned we are competing in Motor Sport, we know the risks and it’s up to us to be thoughtful and skilful. I don’t believe either Anne or Mark have even hinted of any criticism of the organisers following their misfortune. The sections I worry about as a car driver are the ones that involve long, steep reverses down when you fail, like Highwood 2 and some on the Kyrle. However, once you know it’s up to you. If you don’t like it don’t enter the event. Spectators are another issue. I went to Blue Hills 1 and 2 this year. The question is “is the club responsible for the safety of the spectators?” If so then something has to be done on “spectator sections”. There needs to be clearly defined and marshalled spectator barriers, keeping people away from dodgy places, section crossings marshalled. Then there is the question of that wonderful exposed drive belt on the winch. I’m sure that with the appropriate resources all this would be possible at Bluehills but I don’t know about Simms. (other deletions were tecnical beacuse thet ended up showing html code)
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with Michael. From a competitor's viewpoint, if it was all bland and riskless, why would anyone bother to compete? Spectators are a bit of a worry on Simms as on certain parts of the hill they have nowhere to go if a car or bike gets squirrelly I would have thought Bluehills was safe - mind you I have probably been concentrating more on where I was going than the view! Brian PS Also welcome Celia - nice to catch you to have a word at N Petherton. Glad you weren't around with a camera when I fell under my TTR whilst trying to get on board at Wilsey.
ReplyDeleteJust been looking through the Lands End Results. I was very surpised to see the number of failures on Blue Hill Two, including Dave, Paul and Mike. Can't quite understand that as most pople were getting up while I was there. I am sure the two guys who were "done" for not being normally seated on Hoskin were unhappy but I think if they look at http://classicalgas.smugmug.com/gallery/1374706/14/64880288/Medium they might understand that the marshal did have a good view! Talking of marshals on Hoskin they included david Wall and I see that Eric was given a fail. Now I saw him pull away from the restart and storm to the top in fine style so thats a mystery. Michael
ReplyDeleteHi Michael It seems to be the restart area. Dad had queried his "fail" on BH2 with Gerry and apparently 6 out 7 calls so far had all been with this hill. Maybe the final results will read a little differently once Gerry has done his stuff? Wait and see I reckon!! Mark
ReplyDeleteBrief initial statistical analysis available here: http://www.wheelspin.org.uk/blog/index.htm Andrew
ReplyDeleteInteresting Andrew - Now the big question why? Well for Class 8 it seems that the Hoskin restart was all but impossible, apart from the the top driver/top car/perfect strategy combination. Although the class 7 restarters could get away most just couldn't build the momentum to get over the polished class 8 restart area. However, and here is my point, that was a reasonable and fair challenge. It wasn't rough, it wasn't Micky Mouse, it wasn't car damaging, it was just steep. Bishopswood and Bluehills were another matter. Most of the competitors I spoke to hated the Bishopswood restart, describing it as "out of character" for the event. It was possible though, perhaps more so than Hoskin which was "in chracter". My bone of contention is the two sections at Bluehills. This years restart was very tricky and I may be wrong but it looked to me as if the top had been made tighter by putting in those rocks http://classicalgas.smugmug.com/gallery/1374731/17/64881914/Medium I didn't understand the failures on Bluehills 2. It didn't look so difficult to me. Was it marshalling decisions? Michael
ReplyDeleteI agree regarding the comments on Hoskin, which is a huge challenge to all, but is a "real" hill with "real" re-start tests, (as opposed to Bishopswood whose purpose seems to be to save the club gold medals). The trial was excellent, the hold-up at Riverton was unfortunate but these things happen. We are very dependant upon the number of folks who turn out to marshall whilst we enjoy our attempt on the hills, and are often totally dependant upon their assistance to get out of the hill in the event of a broken diff / halfshaft / loss of wheel / or puncture. Sometimes, in circumstances like this year, we could probably have done with a few more to help clear the hill more quickly, but lets thank those we had and hope that more join them next year ! Looking at the results confirmed my understanding of my under-performance this year, (sorry Matt), but added one extra surprise in that we were marked as an "S" on Bluehills 1. We know we didn't and Michael was taking photo's during our attempt so we are a little bemused, but it makes no difference to the results so we haven't troubled Gerry Woolcot with an extra enquiry. Many thanks to Roger and his team, we are looking forward to achieving our gold medal next year !!
ReplyDeleteHad a note from Chris Wall to say that Eric did indeed fail Hoskin. Must improve my note taking! - Michael
ReplyDeleteStrange results on BH2 we also were shown as a fail with the TR7 - If it was for hitting a marker somewhere then surly the results should say HM rather than S . Hoskin was difficult with the start on the slope - we never managed to get any speed at all and stopped just prior to the class 7 restart . We then saw Daves's Golf get a flying start across the track and clear the section, very impressive. Not having the restart on Bishops path made it a great section for us - loads of air time! We were fairly early at Riverton and only had about an hours wait and cleared the section this year good stuff! Another good event - thanks to all the organisers & marshals
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