Thursday, 29 November 2012
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Tuesday, 2 October 2012
MOVING TO FACEBOOK
I hope everyone knows, by now, that this site has less than two months to run and is being replaced by a Facebook Group. Although initially sceptical, and not previously a Facebook member, I'm now convinced that this is the correct way forward. I also know that many of you will be nervous about becoming involved with Facebook, so here is a simple guide for those who are not currently members of Facebook but wish to join for the sole purpose of using the Classical Gas Discussion Group.
1. Go to http://en-gb.facebook.com/ and Sign Up. You must use your real First Name and Surname or you will not be allowed to join the group.
2. Go to http://www.facebook.com/groups/classictrials/. You will be able to see the Group, and read the posts, by you cannot start a post or comment on a existing post. Click "Join Group" - towards the top right of the screen - and a message will be sent to Michael.
3. After Michael has approved your membership (you will receive an email notification), you will have full access to Write Posts and Comment on existing posts.
There are a few other points:
Generally use Write Posts to start a post, Ask Question is similar but includes a poll which members can vote on.
Posts and Comments within the Group are completely separate from posts made in your News Feed. You can ignore the News Feed completely if you intend to use Facebook for the Classical Gas Discussion Group only.
You do not need to include Group members as Facebook Friends. Indeed you can ignore the whole Friends function completely if you intend to use Facebook for the Classical Gas Discussion Group only.
That's all I can think of for starters. Give it a try, and give it a try as soon as possible, the clock is ticking for the end of Multiply!
Thursday, 23 August 2012
Marlin Project
Could be a good starting point if you want to build a trails car from scratch. Only fly in the ointment would be IVA and I am sure the Marlin Owners Club would be able to advise.
Wednesday, 22 August 2012
please read and get involved
Armageddon
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The Headline News
ACE has always been of the opinion that modifying of vehicles would eventually end by the ability to do so being slowly eroded by small pieces of legislation rather than one single regulation.
We have unfortunately now been proved correct with a single item before the EC parliament that will prevent any modifying and will, currently, render already modified cars illegal.
Without a large effort over the next 6 weeks this ’proposal’ will pass into law very shortly afterwards.
We have in our possession a questionnaire issued by DfT asking for views on the legislation and we feel it couldn’t make any clearer the end outcome.
This is NOT a Consultation document as there are no active documents via VOSA or DfT relating to this legislation.
Quoting from the DfT document:-
The Commission proposes to introduce a definition for a roadworthiness test that components of the vehicle must comply with characteristics at the time of first registration. This may prevent most modifications to vehicles without further approval of the vehicle. (this will apply to many components and to all types of vehicle)
The Commission proposes to change the definition of an Historic Vehicle that may be exempt from periodic testing. This may allow vehicles older than 30 years to be exempt from testing providing the vehicle has been maintained in its original condition, including its appearance.
In the DfT interpretation it is all ‘proposes’ and ‘may’ .
However, as shown later in this article, This is going to happen unless a member of the EC Parliament forces reconsideration.
Normally a ‘proposal’ such as this would require a separate Consultation to be done with all interested parties. However this is not the case as this ‘proposal’ brings together various items already covered in previous Consultations. Again this will be dealt with in depth further on in this article.
The proposal itself
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/doc/roadworthiness-package/com%282012%29380.pdf
ACE and several other organisations who we work with will input to DfT but that alone is not enough. We need EVERYONE to be made aware and bring all possible pressure to bear to ensure this ludicrous ‘proposal’ does not pass into law.
All those who wish to be involved should contact us and we can discuss what is to be done to fight and also address any queries that need resolving.
ACE shall be opening a forum to improve communication in the very near future, we are taking this step because we have very little time to go to other forums to deal with queries due to such a short time frame.
The Details
How can it become law without Consultations taking place?
They have already taken place! The Consultation took place via a EU only website and was, to all intents and purposes purely to do with Roadworthiness testing.
These are the other Consultations that have formed the backbone of this ‘proposal’
“An open consultation was conducted over the Internet from 29 July 2010 to 24 September
2010. The Commission received 9,653 responses from citizens, Member State authorities,
equipment suppliers, test centres, garage associations and vehicle manufacturers.”
This is the Consultation in question:-
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/take-part/public-consultations/pti_en.htm
So how do things change with this ‘proposal’?
Firstly all vehicles other than clearly defined Historic must undergo a roadworthiness test and part of that will ensure that the vehicle meets its original Type Approval, i.e. is totally standard.
“General context
Before a vehicle is allowed to be put on the market, it has to fulfil all the relevant type or individual approval requirements guaranteeing an optimal level of safety and environmental standards. Every Member State has the obligation to register for the first time any vehicle that got the European type-approval on the basis of the “Certificate of Conformity” issued by the
vehicle manufacturer.”
“….The goal of roadworthiness testing is to check the functionality of safety components, the environmental performance and the compliance of a vehicle with its approval.”
Who is this going to affect?
Within the ‘proposal’ it states that: -
This Regulation shall apply to vehicles with a design speed exceeding 25 km/h of the following categories, as referred to in Directive 2002/24/EC, Directive 2007/46/EC and Directive 2003/37/EC:
and with not more than eight seats in addition to the driver’s seat – vehicle category M1,
Will anyone be exempt from being tested to original standard specification?
Once again within the ‘proposal’ This Regulation shall not apply to:
So Historic vehicles won’t have to worry?
Within the UK we have a system that allows alterations to ANY, including Historic, vehicles whilst still allowing them to retain their identity. Known commonly as the 8 point system and also we have the ability to change body appearance on chassis based vehicles.
However the ‘proposal’ contains a NEW EU wide Historic vehicle definition.
“(7) ‘vehicle of historic interest’ means any vehicle which fulfils all the following conditions :
”
This ties in with the FIVA definition ACE has been warning would become law, rather than being used as a ‘lobbying tool’ as suggested by others.
Why do you keep saying ‘proposal’ rather than Proposal?
Because this is anything but a Proposal which most would assume requires further consultation. This will pass into law very shortly .
The procedure for becoming law is :-
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/aboutparliament/en/0080a6d3d8/Ordinary-legislative-procedure.html
Once forwarded it only takes two readings by EU Parliament and EU Council without objection and it becomes law !!
The ‘proposal’ has already been forwarded to both Parliament and the Council as detailed here :-
of document: 13/07/2012
of transmission: 13/07/2012; Forwarded to the Parliament
of transmission: 13/07/2012; Forwarded to the Council ”
This is NOT a drill, we repeat, NOT a drill.
Monday, 20 August 2012
Midget Sprite Sump Guard
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Midget-Sprite-sumpguard-ideal-for-trials-or-rally-car-/330775794841?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d03c61499
Tuesday, 7 August 2012
Closing at the End of November
Monday, 16 July 2012
Marlin Marina based suspension uprights.
Hi all iv twisted my suspension up right on the drivers side. Its the bit the hub is on.
Everything else seems straight its just the up right. Dose anybody have 1 they wish to sell?
Or where can i get hold of 1?
Thanks steven
Thursday, 12 July 2012
Trials insurance
many thanks
Kevin
Monday, 18 June 2012
Race for Life
Hi all
The run went well on Sunday weather better than last year
So far the total on and off line is £730.Thanks to all who have sponsored me.
The wesite is still open if anyone would like to add to my sponsorship.
www.raceforlifesponsorme.org/juneblakeley877
Thanks again
June
Wednesday, 13 June 2012
575 type /B Series axle info
The ratio is 5 to 1 which i would like to use.
Sunday, 10 June 2012
marlin parts.
Saturday, 9 June 2012
Passenger seating
Tuesday, 29 May 2012
BMW Classic Trials Car For Sale
Friday, 25 May 2012
Friday, 18 May 2012
Tran-Ex Diffs
Due to Auto Sport Engineering’s (Tran-X Parent Company) substantial growth and the fact key members of Tran-X staff are moving on, Tran-X will cease trading within the next 3 months.
MikeW
Sunday, 29 April 2012
Junes Race for Life
I would like to thank all the people who contributed to my Race For Life Bucket at the Kyrle Trial.
You raised a Total Just under £90
Thankyou again. and Thanks to all those who have donated online.
If anyone would like to donate there is still time. my website is,
www.raceforlifesponsorme.org/juneblakeley877
Saturday, 28 April 2012
Class 8 Special?
Pure special building. Ground clearance may pose a problem but might be some ideas here although John Blakely may have one or two scrutineering issues?
Thursday, 26 April 2012
New uprights
Monday, 23 April 2012
Turn Key Class 7 marlin for sale
Up for sale a turn key nothing needs doing very competitive class 7 marlin full nut and bolt rebuild supercharged fiat twin-cam swb marlin tax exempt with a very comprehensive spares package another engine, gearbox 10 cwt van axle plus hubs marina running gear etc selling due to too many cars need to thin them down ring tim on 07932858261 for spec
Thursday, 19 April 2012
Sunday, 15 April 2012
Kyrle Trial
Wednesday, 11 April 2012
Another possible trials car perhaps!!!
Just time to restore it and enter the Ilkley!
That was a joke by the way for those delicate members!!!!!
Sunday, 8 April 2012
Lands End Trial
Message to fullfordclose
Friday, 6 April 2012
Thursday, 29 March 2012
Wheel bolts?
We are getting there with this Marlin trials build took a lot longer than anticipated i can tell you,several u turns in power plant choice did not help mind.
i will post pictures when it is completed i am at the stage of sorting out wheels, i will be using MGB rostyles they are plentiful and i have lots anyway. NOW????
Wheel bolts or locking lugs rim locks Tyre clamps. not sure what others call them, but basically they hold lyres run on low pressure on to the beed to stop instant deflation.
My questions !
1 .. Obviously they are legal to use !! -- Are they ?
2.. How many to fit.
3 Advice on construction and fitting
4 I Would rather make my own if at all possible but can you buy them and where from.
One last question as an after thought, i am ready to drill the 575 van drum brake hubs to take the disks, i fitted a old BMC ex riley 1100 remote brake servo with the std front disks, it works fine. But not sure how many are out there now. This got me thinking with the twin leading shoe drums being kind of self sevoing and taking into account i wont use this car on the road much. should i fit the drums rether than convert to disks.?
Instinct tells me the disks will clear better in mud etc, but what are others thoughts based on experience of drums on marlins or other cars in trials situations. ?
Monday, 26 March 2012
Sunday, 25 March 2012
How was your Torbay Trial
Monday, 12 March 2012
Sunday, 4 March 2012
Message to drjonrose
Thursday, 1 March 2012
Northern Classic 2012
Hope this works!!!
My attempt (and success1) on Sandale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcAKPTBOuaY&feature=channel
Myke, John Blakeley and Baldrick.
Monday, 27 February 2012
Marlin radiator upgrade.
Hi dose anybody know a place in somerset or devon that can modify my radiator to 3 core?
Or dose anybody know a rad which will fit for a good upgrade.
Its a mgb engined marlin with a viva radiator.
Thank You Steven
Sunday, 19 February 2012
My Northern Trial
Friday, 17 February 2012
FMC March Hare, Sunday 4th March 2012
Just a quick reminder that entries close in just over 1 week, and that only a handful of entries are left - so be quick in order to avoid disappointment.
You can download the regs & entry form, see the current entry list and generally find out what's going on by visiting www.marchhare.info
Murray
Thursday, 9 February 2012
Cotswold Clouds
Monday, 30 January 2012
Northern Classic Trial
Well, I never thought that I would be posting a message like this to followers of this site a month or so ago. If you are intending to enter the Northern Classic Trial please get your entry off to us as soon as possible as we may well end up with a full entry!!! Many thanks to all who have entered already. The organising team are calling in all their favours from the weather gods for it to rain at the beginning of the week with clear weather on the set up day of the 17th and bright sunshine on the 18th. God, it is rumoured, loves a trier.
Looking forward to seeing competitors and marshals on the 18th for a cracking days trialling.
Myke Pocock
Chairman
Fell Side Auto Club.
Monday, 23 January 2012
My Clee Hills Trial
Monday, 16 January 2012
A110 alpine
Monday, 9 January 2012
Mainstream Media
The pictures seem to have come from John Baker http://www.jfbclick.com/ Don't think he is involved in the sport. I wonder how much he got paid?
Sunday, 8 January 2012
My Exeter Trial
Message to jeepmadmike
Friday, 6 January 2012
Northern Classic Trial 18th February
If you are not on the ACTC;s list to receive the regs for the Northern, please email me at fsacnct@yahoo.co.uk and I will get you a set sent out. We cater for all classes including Class 0 and bikes. Biased as I may be, but the Northern has consistently received favourable reports in it's relatively short life for being a competitive, enjoyable and friendly trial. As usual the very small but obsessively dedicated team from Fell Side have been scouring the North Cumbria forests and byways to come up with some new, returning and altered sections to test veteran Northerners and newbies alike. If you have visited us before you know the score, if you are a Northern virgin why not try us for size!!! Bite the bullet, give all those softy southern trials a miss and spend your hard earned sheckels Up Noorth. You KNOW it makes sense. We look forward to welcoming all to Cumbria.
On a serious note, we need to reach a certain number of entries to guarantee the continuity of the Northern in futire years. Trialling is a sport but also a bussiness for the organising clubs that needs income from entries to continue. Please support us.
Myke Pocock
Chairman, Fell Side Auto Club
Sunday, 1 January 2012
Are we all ready for the exeter?
This will be my first time driving in the exeter trial, navigated for about 4 years and competed in the lands end in my old beetle. Iv just got a little bit left to on the marlin (ex angus stewarts car) but not much mainly checking things this car has been built very well. My dad got his beetle ready then trashed it in local trial just before christmas so we are working hard at the min to get it ready.
Is everybodys elses cars ready or is just start it the day before and hope for the best?