A blog entry for 16 Jan 2009 talks about replacement Cannon chassis by Fourtune Engineering (their website seems NLA - they still going?)
Have any chassis been produced and has anyone pondered IVA? (drums on front could be a problem, as well as sharp edges, steering column, seat belt mounts and headrest)
Chat on this group suggested a Suzuki SuperCarry axle, as Liege use. What about using a Suzuki Swift engine too? (the Liege Multiply group is discussing this engine option).
Also can anyone advise on identifying Cannons, as they can lack chassis numbers as well as may be modified, For example on the car on for sale pages of www.sportingtrials.com - how can you tell if it is a Cannon?
Thanks
Mike Wood
Try Mark Milne from Carlisle on 01228 514039. He, along with his dad Dickie, bought a few Cannons a few years ago and knows a lot about them.
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Best wishes
Mike
From Richard Milne
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I see Mark and myself have been mentioned in dispatches.
I would appreciate if you can pass on our point of contact to the gentleman concerned.
Mark is currently in charge of the collection and finishing of the first Cannon.
I am currently resident in the UAE for a couple of years - my UK e.mail address still works.
Do you know whether the guy with the jig is still operational.
As a matter of interest, Michael Telford has a very early Cannon nearing onto four wheels. Son Mark identified the car on A Gloucester trial in either 1954 or 1955 - so it has a bit of histo
Steve Holder of Fourtune Engineering is still very much operational. He has an advert in every ACTC Restart magazine. Phone 07973 128189 He is not on eMail and has no web site.. He has a very old jig for making a Cannon Chassis and has made some. His work can be reccomended.
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Whilst I posted a contact for Mark Milne I find this thread interesting. If you want a replacement chassis this would be quite within the bounds of a competent fabricator without the need for a jig. I totally constructed my Locost chassis from book instructions and measurements so if I can then......etc, etc. However if you want a totally new vehicle I would think that even Cannon thinking has developed since the first cars. Talk of Suzuki axles and engines etc means that you would not be making a direct replica anyway. The Haynes Roadster book which is a development of the Ron Champion Locost idea now has a Sierra diff and is therefore fully independent all round and could be used as an excellent starter for a chassis design (suspension geometry already sorted for you) and with small alterations (ride height etc) to suite classic trialling. I have thought along those lines myself. However as has been said, bare in mind the dreaded IVA test and the need for some very stringent requirements.
ReplyDeleteStuart - Steve currently has (or at least had last time I was in his workshop) THE jig on which all real Cannons were made, although I believe that the jig belongs to someone else. I believe that at least two brand new chassis have been made on this jig over the last couple of years. Andrew
ReplyDeleteSteve has the original jig that all cannons were made on like Andrew said. He doesn't own the jig but can make new cannon chassis if you were to ring him. The new one (replica) that was made is now sold but is a great starting place for a cannon. Although a replica it is still all brand new and saves messing with old rusty parts.
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