Classical Gas Christmas Quiz 2011 Question 3

Same as Q2. I would like to know When, Where and Who, and all about the car as well. I know some of the answers but not all so you could be adding to the history of the sport! This is a different type of question to the first one. I don't plan to respond until Boxing day evening, leaving respondents to confirm or challenge their co-competitors answers!

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Thanks to Nigel Brown for this question.

Classical Gas Christmas Quiz 2011 Question 2

Well Question 1 was nice and easy wasn't it  Something a bit different for Q2.

I would like to know When, Where and Who, oh and all about the car as well. I know some of the answers but not all so you could be adding to the history of the sport! This is a different type of question to the first one. I don't plan to respond until Boxing day evening, leaving respondents to confirm or challenge their co-competitors answers!

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So - When, Where, Who and What

Oh - A certain person is banned from this question. You know who you are!!

Trials car for sale

Does anyone have any trials car for sale. Would prefer class 3 or 8.

Any state, I don't mind a project or work.

Would like a cannon or similar.

Contact Tom on 07854 863238 or tj-engineering@live.co.uk

Travel not a problem.

Thanks.

Classical Gas Christmas Quiz 2011 Question 1

What is the automotive connection between – An old hat factory; Tar Barrels and the man on an Omnibus.

This is a Round Britain Quiz type question. You may have to probe a bit to solve the riddle before you can move on to get the answer to the main question. Have a go, even if you aren't on track my responses may guide you to the final solution.

By all means use Google & Wikipedia.

You can answer here on the message board, facebook page or email classictrials@googlemail.com

There will be prizes for this question and more to follow for fun.

lead replacement fuel additives ?

Any addvice please on your findings regarding  lead replacement fuel additives, example which ones work the best for reliability and any specific fuels that you feel work better with lead replacement fuel additives .

Isolation Switchs

Hello

Could somebody give us some advice at minehead motor club, do we need isolation switchs for the exeter trial in january?

 

Thanks steven

Independent Panel On Forestry Progress Report

As many followers of this site are involved in the use of forests either through our sport or for recreation and have also had input in the debate on forestry use, some may be interested in the Progress Report published recently.

We in Fell Side Auto Club make extensive use of Forestry land for the Northern Trial and if that was curtailed we simply would not have a competition. Over the years we have built up a teriffic working relationship with local Forestry representatives and indeed one in particular has actually found us new sections in the past such is his understanding now of our requirements.

To keep our trial, and others, going that use forestry land we need entries. Please try your very best to enter the Northern Classic Trial on the 18th February 2012. We cater for all classes including Class O and bikes and would love to see old faces and new. February will see three brand new sections and the return of one or two from the past but tweaked to keep you on your toes!!!   

http://www.defra.gov.uk/forestrypanel/files/Independent-Panel-on-Forestry-Progress-Report.pdf

Camel Classic

Not that is was muddy on the Camel Classic today !

Welcome to Tom Jones

Hi Michael. Ive just joined your classical gas group under the user name TJEngineering. My name is Thomas Jones. I trialed a blue MK1 escort a few years ago. I am looking to get back into trialing. I really want a class 8 special but am finding it hard to find one, could you help me with this. I am also thinking about building one myself if nothing comes along. My Dad Martin Jones converted the green Dingo to classic trials many years ago. And my brother drove it to the championship before he sold it to the late Peter Fear. Ive been racing for the last few years, being lucky enought to drive some very special cars in historic racing. But I do love trialing. If there is any thing you can help me with please dont hesitate to contact me. Thanks Tom

Blue Hills Mine

If you havent seen it yet, Blue Hills Mine is the MSA Magazine Readers Awards Venue of the Year. Never been there myself but what will that do for the publicity of Classic Trialling amongst MSA members? Brilliant news and a nice write up in the magazine.

Changes in 2012 Blue Book

As a former business colleague once said "I remain confused but after this clarification my confusion is at a higher level". Now I think I know what this was meant to say but I am not sure if this says it.

Red is new. Strikeout is removed from old.

9.4. Vehicles may not be fitted with torque biasing

differentials in full and free operation between the

driving wheels (It is not Permitted to fit any form of

differential that was originally offered by its

manufacturer as torque biasing, whether fitted in

modified form or not) unless:

9.4.1. A differential was not fitted by the manufacturer

9.4.2. The vehicle is restricted to running in a

nominated Class.

9.4.3 It is not Permitted to fit any form of

differential that was originally offered by its

manufacturer as torque biasing, whether fitted in

modified form or not

10.12.4. Cars in Class 1 may fit replacement

differentials, crown wheels and pinions provided the

differential action remains free operating

2012 Blue Book is available at http://www.msauk.org/site/cms/contentCategoryView.asp?category=609

Allen Trial

Having decided to concentrate on PCT's up to the Exeter we marshalled on this years Allen.

Our group of three was allocated to Chimney in The lakeside complex where we were welcomed and well looked after by Colin Biles. With alternate routes for different classes I was directing traffic at the fork, moving the tape according to instructions radioed from the start. Although I have been to this complex before I hadn't realised it was an old coal mine. The chimney, still visible amongst the trees, was part of the winding engine and the mounds are slag heaps.

Most of the first half of the entry failed, whichever route they took. Carl Talbot was a notable exception on the 1-6 route, going clean while most under steered into the trees. It was strange but as the afternoon went on we got more clears here, although it became more and more slippery.

Classes 7 & 8 went up Pete Harts new bank http://youtu.be/qlnGdJ5tY58 which as you can see took a lot of work to create. We only had three cleans, all in class 8 after a restart. Dean Partington, Charlie Shopland and Dean Yarranton. Unfortunately this route had to be cancelled towards the end after a couple of incidents of cars ending up in the trees but I'm sure Pete and his team will sort this for next year.

How was your Allen Trial?

Michael

Camel Trial rooms

Traelodge Roche (1 mile from the start) is currently offering rooms on the Saturday night for just £12.50

Dave H's new Wheelspin challenger

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=24703

Marlin Parts

Dont know if these are any good to any Marlin owners but as they are in Carlisle and so am I, if I can be of any use please contact me.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280768757510&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

Alternative Trials Car???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120802933473&clk_rvr_id=280039005191

Allen Trial

Hi All

A little insight of what's coming for those who have entered or are about to, still places available entries close on the 13th.

Cheers

Pete

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlnGdJ5tY58

 

 

The Peak District National Park, BBC4 9.00pm, 30 Oct.

I have just watched an "eye opening" hour long programme called "Tales from the National Parks" on BBC4. It was part 2 of a series based on the Peak District.

It was a programme about the villagers of Gt Longstone v "off roaders" v National Park Authority v The Council. Basically the villagers want a local BOAT closed to off roaders. Well worth watching, especially as it seems that the Park Authority do not want any particular group banned from the Peak District. It was a pity that the tone of the reporter made out that the off roaders were the villians, as usual.

Can be seen on the BBCi player for the next seven days. Programme broadcasted on Sunday 30th October at 9.00 pm, on BBC4.

Falcon's Guy Fawkes Trial

Passenger wanted for this single venue Car Trial in two weeks time - Any offers? - Closed car.

Tarka Trial, 30 Oct

Hi all, Tarka Trial next weekend on the 30th Oct, will be running even with its current 5 entrys! If you enter, with its current entry list you have a dam good chance of winning! Regs can be found here http://www.ndmc.org.uk/Events/Tarka/2011/2011Regs%20Page.pdf

Marlin Roadster class 7

Hi dose anybody now how i register my marlin for class 7 in my name, the car is already registered but the scriutneer wants it in my name, thanks steven

Wanted Marlin hood dead or alive.

I need a marlin hood for a long wheelbase anything considered good bad or indifferent, please don't be shy as i have literally nothing to even copy to fabricate a hood so that grotty torn hood you replaced  may be just what i am looking for as i said above ANYTHING CONSIDERED.
   I am at the stage now where i am thinking about making some sort of lift off hard top to fit between the screen and the roll cage, this route is obviously fraught with complications so hence my last ditch attempt to find  at least a old hood as a template before i venture in to the unknown.  HELP  

VW beetle

Category:

Cars & Trucks

ebay item

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110755716650?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

Roger Dudley needs a passenger for his Marlin at Falcons Brickhill Trial on Sunday

If you can help email Roger at anne@dudley100.freeserve.co.uk

B-series engine

Category:

Cars & Trucks

Hi has anybody got a running mgb or marina engine for sale, im having my engine rebuilt and need one in there as i wont be getting my engine back til around christmas time, thanks steve

My Edinburgh Trial

I was entered in Class 0 in my Sidevalve Dellow. However, a lazy summer meant I hadn't fixed the car since breaking it on last years trial. Decided to go up and take pictures rather than use the Beetle.

We spent the morning at Barmford and saw all the bikes and 75% of the cars. It was bone dry of course and very rough. Star climb of the day went to the guy on the old BSA Bantam who rode up as if it were a flat main road. Not so many of the other motorcyclists. We reckoned at least 25% of them fell off. Either in trying to get away from the restart or easing off to much for the final slab and loosing all momentum.

Many of the cars suffered from to much grip and there was a constant smell of fried clutch. This caused quite a problem for some of the higher geared re starters on the restart, their wheels wouldn't break traction and ease the pressure on the clutch resulting in stalling. There were some very impressive climbs by some of the seemingly endless procession of Suzuki's which without a restart made light work of the old hill.

We were in good company on Bamford. Pete & Carlie Hart, Mal & Donny Allen, Julian Lack, fellow non-starter Richard Peck and Tony Rothin, there to see Nick Farmer in his old car just some familiar faces. Oh and I nearly forgot El Presidente, sorry Jonathan.

Moving on to Excelsior we saw the last half of the cars, including a few Class 0's. The restart on the corner is past its sell by date. If the hole gets any deeper it will be down to a coal seam. Despite this it didn't present too many problems. Apart from those who started to spin their wheels and were rapidly given a fail and told to stop by the restart marshal. Lets hope this didn't cost anyone a triple.

How was your Edinburgh Trial?

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Edinburgh Trial

After looking over the 2011 routecard, I am not 100% sure if Class 1 are doing Riley's Rise this year or not. If we are, then there is 1 typo and if we aren't, there are 4. For the moment I am going to assume we are, as I would like to see this new hill. Can anyone confirm this for me ?

Marlin roadster MGB engine

Hello just after abit of advice really, i changed the head gasket when i first got the car been driving it around for a couple of months, i competed init on sunday and came second overall in the pct, the car started smoking burning oil, the oil in the sump was being pressurized and sucked in thru the breathers, thers now water in the oil, i was ill as i was changing the gasket so cant remember to much, but it did have a straight egde, just wondering what the best gasket would be to use and is it worth trying a sealer as wheel? 

sorry for rambling,

Steven 

Vote for Blue Hills Mine as MSA venue of the year

Have a look at:-
http://actcchat.blogspot.com/2011/09/bit-of-publicity-2.html

taw and torridge

had very enjoyable day in ideal conditions thank you jim and all. simon groves had a good day too on his virgin classic trial outing in his beautiful new troll with the much more beautiful miss robilliard in the passenger seat.  butt all was not as planned as he really got his ass slapped on the second to last hill ,have to pull your trousers up a bit quiker next time grovey:]

Kingpin 14" Tyres

I have managed to get a batch of Kingpin 175/80/14 remoulds with the "correct" pattern (which seems to have a different name depending on who you talk to). If anybody wants some please contact me or Dave Haizelden or leave a note here and I'll get in touch.

 They are £27.50 each or £25 for 4 or more. We can either bring them to the start of a trial or if needed I can courier them out for £7.50 a pair.

 I hope this will be of help to some people as it seems a lot of the possible sources of these tyres have dried up!

Spill Kit

Hi!

Soon be time for all classic trailers to carry a spill kit, haven’t got mine yet, where is the best place to get one from??

Brian Osborn

Peugeot 205 rear Suspension

Earlier this year I asked for suggestions on raising the suspension of my 1360cc 205. You guys did'nt let me down and I acted on your advice.

So far I have increased the height of the front of the car using a pair of 405 Springs. 

I have just raised the rear by adjusting the Torsion bars. However on attempting to refit the rear Shocks I found they needed to be approximately 25mm longer. It was suggested to me that 306 units would be the answer. Unfortunately looking at these they were the same length (325mm between centres).

Any ideas which shocks I could fit.

Thanks

Nigel

Can anyone help?

Anyone know a trimmer who can knock up a tonneau and hood for a Delow Trials car? ta Peter Seabrook peter.seabrook@pearlanddean.com

my collection !

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	Open to offers!

Morgan 3 wheeler family model most of the work is done!
Z3 2000 2.2i silver gray 60,000 miles on SORN.
2 x Micra s 998 3 door 43k and 47k MOTed great first car.
Honda civic 1400 5 door silver 69k MOT
206 5 door 13k grey MOT
207 3 door 4k red MOT
Fiesta Diesel 3 door 1400 23k
206cc 2 door black 1600cc SOLD SOLD

VINCENT PARTS Tank and saddle and other bits and pieces.

For more details etc please contact me

vw beetle

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	£400

hi iv got a tax exempt beetle for sale, loads of mot left body looked good before i used it for trialing, then the rust fell out, its got 1300cc engine init would be ideal for spares or to fix up, the chassis is quite solid but the floors are starting to get soft, would be ideal for a buggy conversion or baja, it did drive really good and i completed the lands end trial in it, selling due to ill health, tel 01398 371367 thank you steve

Mot time tomorrow

Look out everyone im moting the marlin tomorrow, will be back trialing again after the death of my beetle and recovering from a serious stroke, my car will be on display at dunster show on the minehead motor club stand, hoping to do the exmoor clouds trial in october if all goes to plan, just fingers crossed for tomorrow, thanks steven

Only Group Members can post comments now

Although only members of this group could initiate threads it has been possible for anyone with a Multiply ID to add a comment to an existing thread. That caused problems on some rare occasions as we did not know the real identity of posters. The difficulty was that there was no setting available to prevent non-members from making a reply to an existing thread.

The good news from my standpoint is that after lobbying Multiply they have put in an option that allows the group to be set so that only group members can comment and that box has duly been checked.

Michael

"Censored" Classical Gas

Facebook the march of censorship. If you aren't in the "club" you can't see it!!

I can see from the window in the main Classical Gas that Michael is disappointed that the posts don't all appear. Not as disappointed as I am that the free to see for all message board is become a thing of past and a form of censorship - dig dig :) - has arrived at Classical Gas.

Thinking ahead how will people just be able to browse in the future.

Of course the Facebook mantra of getting everyone in the world on Facebook might come true but personally I believe it to be such a bad idea.

Still it will save me some time every week having a look!

Any Ideas on this?

Hi Everyone, ive had this picture for a while and purchased it mainly on the strength of the registration being close to the Gregory Trials car i have PPP 387 and was wondering if this is another Gregory trials car PPP 259 later or earlier, any ideas??

Thanks Josh

Cannon and Cotton register updates

Hi to all that are interested, updates have been made to the Cannon and Cotton Trials Car Register, these updates have been made to the owners list and the image gallery. www.cannonandcottontrialscarregister.org.uk

Thanks Josh

Trials Beetle on Ebay

• Classic Cars >
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Forestry Sell-Off Panel - Action required NOW!

Look at:-
http://actcchat.blogspot.com/2011/07/forestry-sell-off-panel-action-required.html
Read and respond.

Tyre help!

Evening all! I have started work on RPD4 and need some tyre advice, I am keeping the original wheels so I am looking for suitable crossply tyres, the fronts currently have 3.25 X 19 Firestone, the rears 4.75/5.00 X 18 Mudpluggers, 

I have found some 3.50 X 19 Longstone Fronts and some Michelin D.R. in 4.75/5.00 X 18 for the rears, are these allowed?

What about Blockley's, they do a 3.50 X 19 and either a 4.50/5.00 X 18 or a 5.50 X 18 in the 3 block pattern

Thanks, Martin

For Sale: Trials Special Parts

Hi everyone, before buying my new car, RPD4 ,I had accumulated some parts to make my own, they are not suitable as spares so are now for sale:-

Ford Pre-crossflow 1500GT engine with inlet manifold, carb and alternator, was running 2 months ago, good condition, £325

Ford 4 speed 4 synchro gearbox plus remote this is a 3 rail box, £65

4 Branch Exhaust Manifold in good usable condition, £50

SOLD SOLD !!Anglia rear axle 4.1:1 comprises axle case in good condition, diff assembly looks excellent, 2 brake back plates and a pair of half shafts and hubs the half shafts have surface rust, £80

All located a few miles from Junction 13 of the M5

Contact me by email : mgrindrod@mac.com or call 07549 531857 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 07549 531857 end_of_the_skype_highlighting

Cheers, Martin

Kim Simmons Hodge has posted to an old thread

http://classicaltrials.multiply.com/journal/item/1177/Welcome_to_Kim_Kim_Simmons-Hodge

4 x Spitfire /Marina 13" wheels with new tyres.

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	30.00

4 X 185 /60 R13 tyres & wheels for Spitfire /Marina.
For more info phone Jules 07940571050.

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Testing Trial

After a very enjoyable day at Keinton Mandeville i have set up my Photos here:-

http://hoits.smugmug.com/Classic-Trials/MCC-Testing-Trial-July-2011

I hope you enjoy them.  If anyone wants to buy copies they can be found here:-

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A simple publicity campaign

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Race For Life

Hi All

I would like to say another BIG thankyou to all who sponsered me in race for life.

With your help we raised £970  Thanks Again June

Long Run Running Threads & Protocol

We have been very active here with a couple of long running threads. Everyone well behaved so far but perhaps its timely to issue a couple of reminders.

• Everyone is entitled to their view. Sometimes we just have to agree to differ.
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Marlin Trials Car

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	£3000 ono

The ONLY reason for sale is I crashed my race car and need to buy a new chassis

Pics :- http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/j_mountain23/marlin/

Morris Marina/Fiat based, long wheel base.

Two tone paint, Metallic Red with Gunmetal Grey

80% converted into a class 8 trials car

2.0 Liter Fiat Twin Cam Engine, from Fiat 132 supermirafiori, 130 BHP and steel crank as standard, was running perfectly when taken off the road.

5 speed Fiat box, 10 CWT van axle with needle roller conversion, 8 X narrow 15" Wellers.

Registered with current V5 registration document, as a Marlin Roadster on a “Q” plate. car has been on S.O.R.N. since 2001.

Almost everything to finish, loads spent many many new parts, easy summer project, that will be a class winning car when finished. Email for full spec j_mountain23@yahoo.com or call Jim Mountain B4 10pm 07886 074 634

£3000 ono

Historic Sporting Trials Association

Class Wars!

Time for a debate!

The VSCC runs a series of trials for pre-war cars  that are often well oversubscribed.

The MCC events are usually full to capacity, certainly at the start of the year.

So why aren't ACTC events filled with entries?

I know Classic Trials doesn't mean classic cars but why don't we see more of the older cars entered, they must still exist!?

I reckon it's because the inevitable pushing of boundaries at the top of the classes disuades owners of less competitive cars from entering, not because they see little chance of winning but because they have to punish their cars on the same restarts and obstacles as the top of the class.

Why would anyone with an original side valve Cannon want to struggle with a hill designed to take marks from a fire breathing over bored crossflow Cannon with at least twice the power and a transmission to suit!?

Most Class 8 specials look like sportscars, they are built to sportscar design ideals so I will start the debate rolling by suggesting that side valve Class 8 cars be allowed to run in Class 5. Lets see more side valve specials in use, get them Dellows out boys!

What has happened to the Ford Pops and 100e's? How about letting them run in Class 2 rather than in the same class as Duratec engined Class 3's

Over to you.........

 

ACTC Dinner Dance

Thanks to Tina for putting on another great night. The photos I took can be seen at:

http://greensladephotos.smugmug.com

Giles

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LIEGE for sale class 7 car

Hi there

I have for sale my LIEGE Class 7  trials car. taxed & tested till next year

This fun little car has provided me with hours of fun and many awards over the years

V5 states LIEGE so no MOT problems here.(SVA  tested also)

Included in the price will be many spares with the car,gearboxes,spare engine,nose cone, a number of tyres,custom built galvanized trailer.

Please call me if you wish to buy the Liege

Tel 01706 645781 work

mobile 07531 701877

Thanks

Steve kenny

Marlin Trials Tyres

The car runs 185 x 14 at the rear, the 6 covers that I have are starting to get a bit thin and one has a hole in the side wall after traversing the infamous Crackington clay-hiding-sharp rocks horror.

I have used Kingpin Pacers but the factory tells me that they are no longer made. I also enquired after the KS4, but was told they had no stock as they have no tyre cases. In any case if they are available they come in 6 or 8 ply which I think would be too stiff for trials.

Reading this month’s Restart the Matador MP300 sounded promising, but the best availability I could find was a pair of second had ones on Ebay for £83.

Googling the Nexen SB302 produced no results at all. I rang Harold’s Tyres in Penrith and they suggested a Hankook K 715, but this is only available as a 185/80/14.

Looking at the ACTC list I guess the SB302 is a typo and should be the SB802. As far as I can make out it is only available in 185/80/14 size, whereas the Kingpin Pacer is clearly marked 185x14 90P so I assume it has a 90 section. What are the implications of going from 90 to 80 section?

Most of the other tyres on the list seem to be unavailable.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Class 8 Trials Car ‘Six Pence’

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	£3250

The trials season is just around the corner.......

Triumph based Class 8 trials car for sale: AKA 'Six Pence'.

Originally built by Steve Holder - Fortune Engineering near Cheltenham.

Triumph Spitfire chassis and 1500cc engine with fast road cam and twin 1.5" S.U carburettors. New electronic ignition and electric fuel pump recently fitted.

Triumph gearbox and Vitesse final drive open differential including hard steel planet gear pin with needle rollers. Differential ratio 4.1:1.

Independent front and rear suspension with great ground clearance. 14” strengthened rear wheels fitted with part worn King-Pin tyres, and 15” front wheels fitted with Firestone tyres.

Engine is in great condition, lots of oil pressure and a very healthy sounding exhaust note. The roller pin diff has only completed four classic trials and 3 PCT’s since being fitted. All g’box drive gears are quiet and never jump out of engagement.

Other features include: fully fitted custom wet weather soft top hoop including windows (very water tight), bench seat, oil/water temp gauge, oil pressure gauge, engine RPM tachometer, odometer, powerful driving and main beam lights, map/navigation light, large rear tool storage area, twin spare wheel carrier.

First registered 1961 hence TAX EXEMPT.

I have owned this car since 2006, I have thoroughly enjoyed trialling in Six Pence. It is a very reliable and capable car, more capable than my results suggest! With previous owners Six Pence has achieved numerous MCC awards including Gold awards.

Other interests and a young family force sale.

I have many spares for Six Pence, too many to list, but they include: a second freshly refurbished hard steel needle roller open differential (also 4.1:1), a complete Triumph gear box, numerous sets of front and rear wheels/tyres……

Current location is Gloucester.

Contact Daniel on 07917107451 or lt_dan2000@hotmail.com

A great opportunity to compete with much more expensive machinery.

Class 1 revisited

In case you missed it Adrian Tucker-Peake has just made a very interesting addition to the thread on Class 1 diffs.

Click Here for the original thread

As this is a very interesting subject I will copy Adrian's post to elevate the topic to the head of the queue.

Michael

MORRIS MARINA VAN DIFF.

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	OFFERS.

Morris Marina van diff brought for a Marlin trials car i no longer have. Offered for sale after been found in my shed on clearance for house move.
For info phone --07940571050--Jules.

Dellow Driver's Side Front Wing

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	£150

New hand formed aluminium driver's side Dellow front wing. Made in 1.5mm thick 1050A aluminium and edge wired using 3mm galvanised steel wire. Also advertised on Ebay Item number: 120729060069

Telephone John Bonnett on 01647 231119 or email jkbonnett@tiscali.co.uk

My Ilkley Trial

Enjoyed my annual trialling trip to Yorkshire although I didn't trouble the awards secretary as I had an off day behind the steering wheel.

I thought the organisers had positioned the marker posts to make some of the sections very tight, especially the first Swordpoint section where it was barely possible to squeeze between the 10 marker and a very substantial tree.

I didn't do very well on the new Longside Wood section but those that got round the first hairpin enjoyed the long blast up between the bluebells. We had to wait about an hour for our turn as everyone had to reverse back down but hopefully the organisers will be able to keep this hill for the future.

No problems with our car but we saw Simon Woodall limping with collapsed suspension and James Shallcross had multiple punctures.

Don't know what happened to Dave Haizeldens Escort or Dave Olivers Peugot, both of who retired early on. I know Stuart Bartlett pushed the radiator into the fan on his Midget at the first special test. I can sympathise as we hit the same hillock with a hell of a bang.

We didn't get to the finish until 6.30 but there was still some welcome complimentary food available. The Ilkley is a very different Classic Trial but we enjoy it for what it is. We have done the last five and all being well will return next year.

How was your Ilkley Trial?

Skoda on EBay Trials car?

EBay Listing

Kyrle Trial

After a very long wait I have got around to publishing my Photos of the Kyrle Trial.

They can be found here:-

http://hoits.smugmug.com/Classic-Trials/Kyrle-2011

and copies can be purchased from here:-

http://www.photoboxgallery.com/classictrials

I hope enjoy them.

Dave Cook

Ford Back Axle.

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	80.00

For sale Ford back axle taken from a van and used under my father in-laws trailer for many years.
For info - 07972005390.

1987 Scimitar SS1 Ford CVH engined trials car project on EBay

Click Here to goto the EBay listing

My Lands End Trial

Just got home. Really enjoyed the trial. OK the sections were dry and therefore easier than usual but the Lands End is more than a trial, its an adventure where the first test is your own character. Night run was great. The regularity provides that extra bit of interest.

I thought the County Gate Control worked well. Much better place than the pub up the road. We got there a bit early and were there for 50 minutes but parking was under control. Keep it I say.

We hit some mist at times during the nearly hours but not to m uch of a problem. Being dry us Cannon Fodder actually got up Rodneys Revenge and Cutliffe Lane and we really enjoyed the exit tracks rather than the all familiar escape roads.

The club had its revenge on Bishops Wood where we failed the restart so with luck we may get a Silver. Doesn't matter if we don't. Had a great time.

Oh one last thing. How many trailer loads of that clay were dumped on Crackington? We reckon it was three. As an early number we could still see the distinct heaps! Did the job though. Well done chaps.

How was your Lands End Trial?

Troll T6 Chassis

Dellow for Sale

Click Here for Details

Lands End Routecard and Stuff

Has anyones Lands End come? Haven't got mine yet.

Michael

Lady Scrutineer would like to say THANK YOU

To all you wonderful folk who sponsored me at the start of the Kyrle trial yesterday.

 We raised £183.77.your generosity will help so many people. Thank You.

May I also take this opportunity to thank all my other sponsors ,I'm creeping up to my target

                                                  

Kyrle Trial

Some photographs taken yesterday are now available at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/AKnightlyBrown/201104_KyrleTrial

I think I've got most cars somewhere, but my apologies if I missed you or if the only one I took of you is not very good.

MGB Wheels set of 5 Rostyles

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	£40

MGB Rostyle wheels 14" set of 5 ideal for Marlin £40
Also have MGB 1800 engine with od box forsale
Lee 07599062562

March Hare

Members might be interested to know that this years Falcon Motor Club "March Hare" trial is featured in this weeks "Mobil 1 the Grid" TV programme.

Viewing times are:

• Saturday 7.25am Channel 4
• Sunday 9.00pm Motors TV

Catch it if you can.

Otherwise check out http://www.grid1.tv/ after the broadcast where you should be able to view it on-line.

Marlin Roadsters and class 7

In the engine list for marlin class 7 cars,  there is  no mention of the alffa twin cam engine?
They were a common fit back in the day, even the factory demonstrators were alfa powered apparently, so why omit them from the regulation.?

Lands End, Passenger needed

Needed a passenger for the Lands End any one interested,

Start from Michael Wood, Class 8 Sports car

Spence on 07815992256 or alanspencer@orange .net.

Getting very close to the event, so need someone fast....

Lady Scrutineer June Race for Life 2011

  June Is raising money for Cancer Research again this year by entering the Race for Life.You can sponsor me by following the link below.  Thanking you in anticipation     June                                                                    

                       www.raceforlifesponsorme.org/juneblakeley21

 

 

Trials Cars for Sale on EBay

Thanks to Greg for pointing these out

Marlin

Peugeot Shuttle

Caveat emptor - I spotted some questionable bits in the descriptions.

MG Car Club Spring Trial - Lintridge Farm

Last Sunday I went to the MG CC Spring trial.  Although the entry list was quite small there was a varied collection of cars competing.  Unfortunately the dry conditions meant that many of the hills were relatively easy I think everyone enjoyed themselves.

My Photos of the event on Smugmug can be found here:-

http://hoits.smugmug.com/Other-Trials/MGCC-Spring-2011

and if anyone want to buy copies they can be found here:-

http://www.photoboxgallery.com/classictrials

I hope you enjoy them.

Dave Cook

 

 

 

The Cannon and Cotton Trials Car Register

Hi All,

Ive started the Register for Cannon and Cotton trials cars, its still under development but if you take a look then use the contacts page to email me your details of car etc.

Thanks Joshua Moss

Discovery Turbo Channel

This Sunday (20th March) the Discovery Turbo on Sky (Ch523) are playing the whole 'Off The Road' series. It starts at 0600 and runs until 1100 then restarts again.

The episodes that maybe of more interest are:

0600 Hill Rally. We follow the fast and furious exploits of a Salisbury Plain Rally off-road team as they battle appalling weather, mud mayhem and mechanical gremlins.

0630 Sporting Trial. One of the cheapest and oldest forms of off-road motorsport, these sorting trials are deceptive. They look bizarre, but you try driving one of them...

1000 Production Car Trial. It's a must-see! Everything from Ford Escorts to 70-year-old MGs band together to tackle a series of off-road courses set throughout the Clee Hills.

The full listing can be found here:
http://www.yourdiscovery.com/tv-schedule/?type=day&country_code=GB&channel_code=TUUK-ENG&date=20032011

Two Trials car for sale

Aaron North has his BMW Compact on e-bay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIALS-CAR-BMW-COMPACT-318TI-MODIFIED-VERY-COMPETITIVE-/190510608135?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c5b512f07

Dean Yarranton is selling his Marlin.   This is the Nick Cross built car that was advertised here about a year or so ago.   Fully prepared with all the right Fortune Engineering bits, its ready for the Lands End - just add your own tools and bits.   Dean's looking for around 2,500 for the car but will haggle as he has a nice shiney Dellow to pay for :). 
01584881050 days.  

Bristol Motor Club Centenary

Bristol Motor Club are celebrating their Centenary with a weekend at Castle Combe Race Circuit 25-26 June 2011. Details in the attached letter.

In addition to the request for cars from each year. I would like to create a trials themed display of cars in the paddock on the Sunday. All welcome, why not come on Saturday, camp at the circuit and join us for the Saturday evening celebrations. As many “Trials” cars as possible and the older the better.

More Info on the club Website

 http://www.bristolmc.org.uk/Centenary_Year.htm

 

Please contact me for more details or to confirm you can make it.

Pete Hart

Attachment: Invitation Letter.pdf

Torbay Trial Sunday March 27th

With entries all ready past 75, the closing date is this weekend, so don't leave it to late to enter. Please if you are planning to watch could you put yourself forward to marshall.

Trojan via Personal Message

Just to let you know there is a Trojan Horse in a Video being circulated via a Personal Message here.

So if you get a Video in a Personal Message from someone you don't know do not open it.

Either ignore it or go to personal messages in your In Box and delete it.

Michael

Partly trials prep Marlin on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150570064358&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

May need a little more work but its partly done.

Alternative to a Dutton as a trials car?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAMURAI-KIT-CAR_W0QQitemZ140514559000QQcategoryZ29750QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7321413440129484823

Peugeot 205 preparation

I am currently using a 1360cc Peugeot 205 for PCT events and would like to raise the suspension around 50mm front and back. Can anyone offer some advice on how this could be achieved?

My second question is, Is there a preferred method for upgrading the differential? 

Thanks Nigel

 

Northern Trial Photos

After another great weekend in the Northern Lake District I can publish the photos I took there.

 

They can be viewed on Smugmug at

 

http://hoits.smugmug.com/Classic-Trials/Northern-Trial-2011

 

and if you want to puchase prints they can be found at

 

http://www.photoboxgallery.com/classictrials

 

I hope you enjoy them, as much the competitors seemed to enjoy the trial.

 

Dave Cook

The Northern Trial 2011.

Bill Bennett on Sandale, best climb of the day !!!

Roger Thomas MG book on fleabay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-TRIALS-CARS-ROGER-F-THOMAS-WORKS-TEAMS-PA-PB-J-TA-TB-/230584438952?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item35afe750a8

A bargain at £155 !!!!!
I think I'll dust off my copy immediately!

FSAC Northern 19 Feb - Hotel room offered

Hi,

My riding buddy can't make the Northern now so his room at the Penrith Travelodge is up for grabs.

If anyone is still looking for accommodation for the Friday evening then let me know.

Cost is £45 including a "breakfast bag" - whatever that is...

All the best.
--
JK

Proposed Forestry Sell-off

Some sites here that triallers may be interested in looking at regarding the proposed sale of some forests. The Northern and the VSCC's Lakeland Trial rely heavily on the usage of sections within the North Lakes and undoubtedly there are other trials which also use Forestry commission forests. Please support the campaign. Once access is lost or becomes possibly financially unviable we will not get them back, thats for sure. This could be one more of those coffin nails that look to be increasing these days!!! 

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/england-pfeconsultation

http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2011/02/02/second-lakeland-rally-in-protest-against-forest-sell-off

http://www.savelakelandsforests.org.uk/

Cotswold Clouds Photos

I have put my photos from yesterday online here :-

Cotswold Clouds Photos

Northern Classic 19th February

Still time to enter the Northern. Entries should close on 7th February but we will not be absolutely strict about that. Two brand new sections and some cunning changes to some others to keep you all on your toes. Spectacular scenery guaranteed at absolutely no extra charge!!! Youve heard how good it is from others, now try it out for yourself. All car and bike classes including Class O. If you are having problems with regs, email me fror them at fsacnct@yahoo.co.uk

We always guarantee a warm welcome and good competition.

See you there.

Myke Pocock 

Windwhistle MC have had to cancel their Bovey Down Trial this year

We would normally now be circulating the regulations and entry form for the 7th Bovey Down Trial in March.  However, at the Windwhistle Motor Club Ltd January committee meeting the decision was taken, for several reasons, not to run the Bovey Down single venue trial this year.

Because Easter is late this year our usual, popular date at the end of April, and at the end of the first half of the trials championship year,  is not available. The March date is not ideal, the committee felt, for our non championship event. Clinton Devon Estate, the landowner, is planning extensive felling at the venue before the trees get infected with sudden oak death disease and although we were OK to use the venue in January for the MCC Exeter Trial (Normans Hump & Clinton) it is by no means certain that the venue will be available to us in March.  The 2010 event attracted fewer entries than the committee would have liked. 

This decision to not run the event is not without precedent. We ran the event in 2004, 2005 and 2006.  In 2007 the venue was unusable due to forestry work so the event did not run.  That was the year Normans Hump was not included in the January MCC Exeter Trial despite huge efforts by Terry and Jason Flay in an attempt to reinstate the surface.  Then we ran the event in 2008, 2009 and 2010.  So we trust that by resting the event for a year we can come back in 2012 to our usual end of April, end of the first half of the championship year, slot.

Anne Whellock, Secretary Bovey Down Trial

Windwhistle Motor Club

CLEE HILLS TRIAL 2011 Far Gatten section Marlin Robert

CLEE HILLS TRIAL 2011 Far Gatten Section

message to revinkevin

Thank you for your application to join Classical Gas. However, your application is not in accordance.

Check out our rules by following the link to "Joining Classical Gas" on our main page at http://classicaltrials.multiply.com/ and let me have the relevant information if you want to come on board.

Michael

trials recovery

Om this week Mcc news of the week someone is trlating there issues on getting recovered by yhte RAC . Aparantly they would not recover them as they had been taking part ina motor sport event.

Can you recomend another organisation that will come up with the good when you need them.

Dave

Can you identify this event?

Hi,

Been meaning to post a photo of this for ages, can anyone identify this event?

What is obviously the finish is pictured and it is at a pub called The George in the Tree in Balsall Common in the West Midlands, near to Meriden. I have no idea of the year or any other details.

The "original" of this picture is actually a canvas print hanging next to the bar in the very same pub, The George in the Tree. I've asked the staff but not suprisingly they have no idea what the vent is/was.

A long shot, but thanks.

--

John K

Northern Trial Accomodation

Swallow in Carlisle is £35 for a Double or Twin, including breakfast. Booked 3 nights so we can explore Scottish side of the Solway Firth on Friday.

Michael

Message to Prefect 1172

Thank you for your application to join Classical Gas. However, your application is not in accordance.

Check out our rules by following the link to "Joining Classical Gas" on our main page at http://classicaltrials.multiply.com/ and let me have the relevant information if you want to come on board.

Trials cars

Have you seen?:

1) The trials car on this weeks 'Antiques Road Trip' - Check out BBC i-player episode 17.

 

2) Trials MG Midget for sale on Ebay?  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120675263325&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

Best Regards from Peterborough

 

Steve Nikel

Lands End Trial 2011

The Supplementary Regulations and Entry Form are now available for downloading from the MCC website at: http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/about/downloads.htm

My Clee Hills Trial

Well I enjoyed my day in the mud! Lots of new ideas, some working better than others. We cleaned the VSCC's "one reverse permitted" section at Pinstones with 4psi in the rear tyres! As we went clean it must have been a good section although there were mutterings at the finish from many!

What a difference at Easthope 1. Traditionally you blast up until you belly out in the ruts. This year it had been graded and you blasted up until you sunk in the mud! I understand James Shallcross got his Peugeot to the 2 or 3. Superman or what? Always a good section though.

Hated Hilltop (used instead of Ipikins Rock), probably because I floundered in the mud at the start and slipped into the 12 marker, stopping just after and would have slipped sideways down the bank if John White hadn't steadied the car.

Similar issue on the Harley Special Test. On a technical note are you allowed to hit markers unpenalised on The Clee?

Loved the new "traditional" sections at Heywood Common (new) and Castle Hill (new last year), Adrian T-P told me Heywood Common had been used in the past and he remembered it from his Pop days. He was very disappointed that Hugerford had to be scrubbed when their work clearing the exit track had been undone by a very large tractor when a bank collapsed.

Personally I enjoyed Far Gatten (Gattens Gamble in reverse) but others didn't. I know there were big holes but there was plenty of grip and you didn't have to go any faster going up than coming down!

Also enjoyed the transit through the gliding club to get to Priors Holt. Well done MAC.

Was surprised how Priors Holt 2 had deteriorated since last year. Don't know why but I reckon its only time before the ruts become so deep it becomes unusable.

With an early start scheduled for Monday we turned for home as soon as possible after signing off and arrived back in Bedford just before 7.

How was your Clee?

Lucus Electrics -

Useful guide to Lucas Electrics fitted to a variety of Classic Trials cars

http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html

Ford engine numbers

Can any of the Ford experts help this Marlin owner?
http://www.marlinownersclub.com/forum.php?read=17963&cat=0
Replies here please, not on Marlin forum. Many thanks,

Andrew

Falcon Motor Club Mile Tree Farm Trial

Start:	Mar 27, '11
Location:	Mile Tree farm near Leighton Buzzard

- Clerk of the Course Michael Leete
- Clubsport event so no competition licence required
- Right next door to the Leighton Buzzard narrow gauge railway if the family get bored.

Regs and entry form at https://sites.google.com/site/classictrials/MILETREEFARMTRIALREGS2011.pdf? (You will be redirected to Google Sites and may be asked to Click to download the attachment)

A query about tyres, tools and weight in Class 1 cars

Hello all, after doing a smattering of trials a few years ago then nothing since I recently realised how much I missed it, so I've bought a Renault 5 and started putting it together. 

I was always involved with RWD trials before where loading the the boot up with tools spare tyres and jacks etc was advantageous for traction as well as the inevitable breakdown/puncture.

Now, being new to this FWD malarky I wonder what the deal is? I'm guessing as little weight as poss. on the back end is what you want.

Do you carry lots of tools and two tyres in the boot?

Silly query I know but hope you can help.

Ed

Articulation

Well, over winter, in the spirit of specials, John and I have been improving the Yeller Dutton.  Will be okay still running in Class 7?   Here's a vid showing an early test:

http://www.gamaniak.com/players/embed.swf?file=http://media1.gamaniak.com/vid-jgj/4x4-passe-partout.mp4&image=http://media4.gamaniak.com/vidcap/4x4-passe-partout.mp4.jpg&showdigits=true&controlbar=over&link=http://www.gamaniak.com/video-4844-4x4-passe-partout.html&displayclick=link

;-)

Bri

Why wasn't Nicola driving on the Exeter?

Welcome to the third generation of Butcher Triallers who we expect to see on the hills very soon.

Thomas Harry Butcher Born: Friday 14th January 00.28. Weight: 8lb 7oz.

Northern Classic Trial - 19 February 2011

The regs etc for the trial are available by emailing me at fredfsac@tiscali.co.uk.   Unfortunately our website www.fsac.flyer.co.uk is out of commission at the moment, so please don't try to use it.

March Hare Passenger

If anyone is looking for a passenger on the March Hare, please give Nigel Bartram a call on 01234 855508

March Hare Trial - Falcon Motor Club

Start:

Mar 6, '11

http://www.marchhare.info/

Marlin Rear Wings

Category:	Cars & Trucks
Price:	£100.00

Marlin rear wings,nose cone,bonnet & hood rail for sale £100.00.
Phone 07940571050 for more info.